AMD Athlon XP 2700+ overclocking help

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-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 11:41 am 18. April 2011

Your processor shouldn't exceed higher temperatures above approx. 55-60°C.
If it doesn't reach this temperature level, it should be safe to increase the voltage.
So we can't tell you the excact maximum overclocking frequency or voltage of your processor, but you're able to test it :thumb:


-- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 20:24 am 11. April 2011

Hi friend :) ,
Actual Vcore is at +3% (1.72v), original is 1.63v, and in the bios setting,there is "Auto, +3% and +6%" .. the cpu temp is 49 degres Celsius (showing the bios), must I put the vcore on +6% ? (my power supply deliver 400W) :)


-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 8:45 am 11. April 2011

Nope, your motherboard could theoretical support a processor up to 3000 MHz ;)
Anyway, did you already check your CPU maximum with an increased Vcore ?


-- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 14:51 am 9. April 2011

I know the chipset in K7S41 is different, but this bios better operate in performance than the "GX " and even the manufacturer ASRock confirm that there is no risk as overclocking is reasonable in the more I just installed an Nvidia GeForce 6800 Ultra, I confess with my modest PC, the performance is superb, my windows is ready in 10s, Call of Duty 4 is now operational :). I just have one last question please, when I run CristalCPUID and opening the System Information by DMI, it tell me this: "Query Performance Frequency is 3.579554 Mhz" and for CPU it tell "actual frequency 2200 MHz and 3000 Mhz for Max". Does it want to say that my cpu can go up to 3 Ghz? And thank you for all :thumb:


-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 12:09 am 9. April 2011

The K7S41GX is nearly the same board like the K7S41, except the SiS 741 "GX" chipset.
Otherwise I wouldn't suggest to flash any BIOS version from other boards, because usually it's not safe.


-- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 15:04 am 7. April 2011

Hi friend :),
I recently update my Bios,but i don't do it with an original of my motherboard "ASRock K741GX", I've do it with "ASRock K7S41" Bios and it different because this motherboard work with 400 Mhz FSB,and now my system recognize the cpu as "AMD Athlon XP 3100+" ;) (originaly it's Athlon xp 2700+) ... I'v set 200 Mhz FSB and 11x Multi, then my clock is 2.2Ghz, Now the temp of my CPU is 48 degres, the Vcore at 1.72 and my system is very stable, after stressing it about 5 hours with CCCP :thumb: ... thank you for help  ;)  


-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 17:54 am 2. April 2011

The FSB sounds good, but the CPU result could be better.
Check your processor temperature with load (e.g. with prime) and if it's far below ~55°C, try to increase the Vcore step by step.


-- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 22:06 am 1. April 2011

:) Hi friend, sorry for late, i don't be at home this days. I want to say you your méthod work fine :thumb: ,i've select a lower multi 10.5x and set the FSB at 212.30 Mhz (424.60 DDR) and it work finally, my cpu clock is actually 2230 Mhz and i haven't a blue screen yet !! i don't change the vcore... trully the system work more perfom now, i will begin to stress the cpu, and i will tell for the result. Thank you very much


-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 20:57 am 25. März 2011

Try to lower the multiplier to 10,5x and then set the FSB Jumper directly to 200 MHz.
Because this setting should change the PCI, etc. divisor - if there is a chance to run it with 200 MHz ... try it.
BTW. of course there's always a risk to damage something with overclocking.


-- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 20:20 am 25. März 2011

Without making any changes, I already try to increase the FSB beyond 166 MHz. but when i put the 173 MHz the bios no recognizes the cpu and the pc crashes after a few minutes, Because it is the motherboard does not support more than 166 MHz (333 MHz DDR)?? but the bios allows me to reach 240 Mhz! I Have the PC3200 (DDR400) DIMM of memory. You can if you want visit this web link to find out what motherboard I have :), so you could direct me to benefits "http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=K7S41GX", I would be very grateful, and sorry again for having bothered you with this story


-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 10:08 am 25. März 2011

The motherboard multiplier changing feature doesn't help, when your CPU doesn't allow it, but the high FSB and Vcore should help you.
So you've the options I've written before, or if you don't like to cut or connect the bridge for the multiplier, you can of course use the Pinmod guide.

Try to find out the maximum FSB frequency and the maximum processor overclocking frequency (however ...).
Then, you can hardwire or modify the bridges to get the best FSB/multi combination.
And if you need to increase the multi much higher than your processor currently allows (in case your FSB isn't enough), you know your options.


-- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 23:12 am 24. März 2011

it already set at 13x by default, i just want unlock the multiplier,to set it higher by changing FID jumper, so what bridge must cut? (because all others feature like Vcore,FSB.. can be setting in bios) Have you understand me now? :) , by showing the cpu,i think all bridge are closed or it appear closed originally, so i have just the choice to cut,no? .....  :( , i think nobody understand what i said. Any way, i let down and thank you very much. :thumb:


-- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 14:45 am 24. März 2011


Zitat von Fawzi um 14:32 am März 24, 2011
hi all :), After extracting my CPU, here is all precisions about it:
- AXDA 2700 DKV3D, AIUHB 0301, Package n° 27291
- L1 (5x)
- L2 (4x)
- L3 (5x)
- L5 (4x)
- L11 (5x) and L12 (5x) ...
My MB have an Vcore adjustement (Auto,+or-3% and +or-6%);  FID jumpers adjustement to x24, FSB manuel adjustement to over 240 Mhz (by défault it set to 166Mhz), What can'I do now?? :)



Looks good :thumb:
Your L1 bridges should be already connected and your multi can be set to a maximum of 13x.
So you have a lot of choices:
  • lower the multi and try to increase the FSB to 200 MHz.
    (not necessary to close the upper L12 bridge to get 200 MHz FSB working, when your motherboard has jumpers for the FSB selection).
  • close the lowest L5 bridge to get a mobile processor and increase the multi by software.
  • try to connect the lowest L3 bridge to unlock the muliplier, but I think it wouldn't work with higher multipliers than 12,5x.
    ...


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 14:32 am 24. März 2011

    hi all :), After extracting my CPU, here is all precisions about it:
    - AXDA 2700 DKV3D, AIUHB 0301, Package n° 27291
    - L1 (5x)
    - L2 (4x)
    - L3 (5x)
    - L5 (4x)
    - L11 (5x) and L12 (5x) ...
    My MB have an Vcore adjustement (Auto,+or-3% and +or-6%);  FID jumpers adjustement to x24, FSB manuel adjustement to over 240 Mhz (by défault it set to 166Mhz), What can'I do now?? :)


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 13:21 am 22. März 2011

    Hi :) , thank you a lot for your assist, and a want to tell you, in the interactive AMD socket A identification it say "Model 10" for Athlon XP 2700+ and it's a Barton Processor, but the CPUID say another information, "Model 8" and it's "Thouroughbred" I'm confused now !!!! So i'm going to open my pc then extract the CPU and come back to telle you more informations about it (for more precision). Thank you a lot :thumb:


    -- Veröffentlicht durch KakYo am 11:07 am 22. März 2011

    U should also keep in mind that the 2700+ (13x166=2167Mhz) is already running pretty close to the limit of the old Athlon XP architecture. (The 3200+ also got only 2200Mhz).

    Maybe u can get to 13,5x166 at the default voltage of 1,65V, getting in the regions of 2400Mhz will pretty much require a decent voltage increase or a mobile XP-M CPU.

    Its also not really worth all the effort u put into this Oldie;) It will remain slow, no matter if its running at 2Ghz or 2,4Ghz...


    -- Veröffentlicht durch ocinside am 8:38 am 22. März 2011

    Here's the detailed overclocking guide for Socket A processors.
    Very important is point 5. "Change the multiplier" for the multiplier unlocking.
    It also explains the problem with newer processors produced after week 43 of the year 2003 and how to identify this.
    Is your processor build before or after 0343 ?



    -- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 21:25 am 21. März 2011

    It's me again :), I think I finally figured out how to change the multiplier, since the card has jumpers to change the FID ratio, provided that the CPU is unlocked, that's all, so what I remains to do is unlock the CPU, and that's where I plant, which bridge do I cut? just to unlock the multiplier, I clarify again, it's an AMD Athlon XP 2700+ (the ASRock K7S41GX have jumper FID and can be change to x24) Thank you for all


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 20:00 am 21. März 2011

    I explain: My motherboard is an K7S41GX and it equipped with jumper to change the CPU multiplier, but if I try to change it, the pc does'nt boot , I understand that this is because the CPU multiplier is blocked, that's why I'm trying to get help to unlock my AMD, and since I am electronics engineer, then I proceed to unlock by connecting pins quoted directly from the motherboard? but what's the max multiplier can I put? (This is the third time that I ask this question precisely, what is the maximum multiplier that can support an Athlon XP 2700 + please?) I specified that my motherboard supports FSB 333 MHz max (166 x 2) DDR, and know that i fully understand the pattern of unlocking the CPU, but since there is also the method of connecting pins directly onto the chassis of the motherboard, so I prefer this method which seems easier and less dangerous, what do you think? .. and thank you (but please,tell me what's the max multiplier the Athlon xp 2700+ can support, pleaseeeeeee  :)


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Hitman am 17:20 am 21. März 2011

    Le probleme est, je ne parle pas francais ;)

    Mais je sais employe un traducteur.  Parce que je dois cherche por maint vot.

    Traducteur

    You have to use the silver conductive pen. This is the easiest way if your mainboard can handle the higher multipliers. If it cannot modified by your mainboard you have to unlock it first and than set the right multiplier by using a wire to link the right pins on the CPU like in the article.


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 15:54 am 21. März 2011

    :) heureux que quelqu'un puisse me répondre en francais! ce que je voulais savoir, est quel multiplicateur maximum puis-je utiliser pour un AMD Athlon XP 2700+ ? sachant que je peux proceder a une modification de pin sous la carte mère carrément (puisque je suis electronicien) :) et j'avoue que j'ai peur de prendre le risque de griller ma carte mère ou meme le CPU, donc si vous me confirmer que cela est sans risque, je procede a la modification (biensur, je ne responsabilise personne pour autant, je n'demande qu'a etre orienté) et mille merci pour la considération encore une fois


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Hitman am 19:18 am 20. März 2011

    Tu ne parle pas anglais?

    La version de texte ce n'est pas bien. Peut-etre tu goûtes expliquet en anglais.

    Ou lis mon texte en bas par traduire en anglais. Simple.

    Now in english, you have a multiplikator-lock CPU which maybe can unlocked. You have to unlock it with a pin-drawing methode on the pins at the back-side of the CPU.

    But if it is locked it first have to be unlocked with the other links and paint the L1 contacts with a silver conductive painter.

    Try


    -- Veröffentlicht durch Fawzi am 18:32 am 20. März 2011

    Hallo, ich habe eine Menge zu sehen, um mit meinem Mangel an Informationen für die Suche nach AMD Athlon XP 2700 + (AXDA2700DKV3D) 1999, in der Lage sein zu übertakten durch Entriegeln der Multiplikator (gesperrt bei 13), derzeit es läuft mit 166 MHz FSB für einen Ertrag von 2183 MHz (je nach System) und sehen das interaktive quide v1.2 für AMD Athlon XP, kann ich entsperren der Koeffizient, indem das Motherboard, aber meine Frage ist: Wie konnte maximal Multiplikator Ich entscheide mich für mein AMD 2700 +? Wieder sorry für mein Vokabular, habe ich nur Französisch sprechen. Tausend Dank für deine Hilfe


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